The Archive · 1876

Hose, and seconded by Mr. Dyce

An Eleanor Cross,—Proposed by Mr, Ware, and seconded by Mr, WaiNewnicnT, 'A Runic Monumental Cross.—Proposed by Mr, Citazatens, and seconded by Mr. Hooo, Bronze Statue on a Pedestal of Marble or Granite.—Proposed by Mr. Tarr, and seconded by Mr. Gnooxt.

Gold Medal for adventurous Geographical Exploration.—Proposed by Mr. Mzpuvrst, and seconded by Mr, Groom.

The Cuamay—That narrows the ashore very much indeed. You have now before you the schemes to be discussed—a Clock tower and spiro at the N.E. Corner of Trinity Cathedral, a Clock tower in the Public Gardens or on the Bund, an Eleanor's cross on one of the public jetties: surrounded with trees, an Eleanor's cross, a Runic monumental cross, a Bronze statue on_a pedestal of marble or granite, and a Gold Medal for adventurous geographical exploration, The twenty-six sugges! have been thus narrowed down. £ think the best way will now be to take those remaining on the list one by one and discuss them. The first on the list happens to be my own, It was proposed and seconded _nt last meeting, and, therefore, I take it that it need not be proposed and seconded again, The proposal for a Clock tower at the N.E. corner of the Trinity Cathedral had better then be discussed now.

Mr. Toorar—If it is discussed now will it be put to the vote?

The Cuamatax—That is a very important question, I think the best way will be to discuss all the schemes in turn and then put them to the vote in order.

'Mr. Toorar—I think it would-be best to discuss them all, one after the other, and not have a negative vote to any of them, but to take a vote for each one in turn,' and the proposal having the largest mber of votes to be carried. I do not the use of taking a negative vote.

Mr, Basen \Avisability of taking a majority vote. It might happen that a minority of the meeting might carry a scheme, 'Mr. Groom—I think we could shorten the discussion considerably by at once deciding whether the memorial is to be absolutely local or not local, and, if local, eliminate the other schemes.' For instance, if local, the memorial would take the form of a Clock tower, or some other purely Tocal form could be selected, and we could cut out the scheme of the Gold medal for adventurous geographical exploration which is not local."

Mr, Warxzwatcnt—The Gold medal it appears to me might be added to any other scheme if we have sufficient funds to provide for it; it would not absorb much money, and, therefore, I don't think it would be wise to cut it out at present.

The Crainwax—We had better discuss the various schemes and afterwards vote upon them, Perhaps they will be very much narrowed down in the course of the discussion. The first scheme in order is No. 1, on the list. Has anyone anything to say about it?

Mr. Gnoom—Perhaps it would simplify matters in reference to No.1 scheme if the Dean would give us some particulars as to the cost, and what subscriptions we are likely to get to carry it out. I opinion that the original amount stated, Tls. 8,000, would not be forthcoming, and therefore the scheme would fall to the ground.

Dr. Hexpersox—I have heard it in the event of this scheme being adopted several persons have promised to ive largely. Perhaps the can can tell us distinctly what the amounts are, The Crarkatsx—There are a great many of the subscribers who have offered money conditionally on this scheme being adopted, and they would not give their money for any other scheme. ° Of course the community has not been properly canvassed to give towards this particular scheme, and until we decide to attempt to carry if out we don't know what we might Mr, Cuatuers~If a subscriber will give his money to one scheme snd not to another, he loses sight of the object in view—-a memorial to Margary.

Mr. Wuite—I don't see that scheme to build a tower for the Trinity

gestion No. 18—a Protestant Chapel for the Cathedral has any, ore claims than sug-General Hospital. (When the list of suggestion were read over from the chair, Air. White proposed No. 18 "as against the tower for Trinity Cathedral," but his motion failed to obtain a seconder.) I don see why when we have a few dollars hand to erect a memorial to Margary they should be given towards the completion of the Cathedral. If there is a separate fund up to build a Clock tower for the cathedral, I for one would be willing to subscribe to it, and no doubt others would do e same, but I don't think the Margary Memorial Fund should be devoted to it, and 1 shall vote against it.

Mr. Rosrxson—I shall venture to dea very bold thing, and suggest a dangerous cut. I think we shall wast amount of time if we attempt to discuss all the schemes seriatim, and therefore to shorten the discussion and save time I

That all the schemes before the meeting which do not consist of a Cross in some shape or other ora Clock tower on the Bund be discarded, These are really the only forms for the memorial which seem to meet the wishes of the subscribers, as appropriate to the object in view, and my proposition is that all the schemes under consideration be discarded except those which come within the description of a Cross or a Clock tower on the Bund.

The Cuarruan—It is hardly to say that that expresses the feelings of the you have geatlenen who have promised hole community, and especially when

Pls. 1,100 for a Cathedral tow Mr. Lixpsay seconded Mr. Robinson's motion, which he thought carried out the original intention of the subscribers, The Cuarraax—I cannot help thinking it would be well to have some discussion first on the matter, and if Mr. Medhurst will kindly take the chair, in justice to myself, I shall make an explanation.

The Dean then vacated the chair, and it was taken by Mr, Medhurst, The Deax then said—I rise to advocate the proposition which I brought forward at the last meeting, viz,, that the Margary Memorial take the form of a Cathedral tower and spire. The key note of my speech I may as well strike at first. It is this, What is worth doing at all is worth doing well, Now let me say that I recognize Mr. Kingsmill's constant courtesy and generous frankness in opposition, but I take exception to one phrase his, He said at the last meeting, good humouredly enough, that the Dean desired to have the Clock tower to himself." This is not so, Everybody who has eyes to see and taste to appreciate a beautiful object, will have a share in the tower, There is no egotism in me in this matter (Laughiter), and L advocate the Margary tower to the cathedral because! believe from my heart thatit is the right thing to do, Let me first try to combat thie objections to the scheme, then let me show why this is a goodly and proper memorial, free from the objections raised against other memorials. The first objection which I have heard is that the tower is connected with a sect, not with the community, To this T reply that we live in an age of toleration and liberality. I know little and care less for sectarian feelings, I address all who profess and call themselves Christians. I say we live in a tolerant age, and T believe that, if Babakuk Mucklewrath and Ephraim Macbriar were to rise from beneath the stones whose inscriptions Old Mortalily recut, they would not hesitate to set their cumbrous heirloom silver watches made by George Heriot, horologer to King Jamie, at the clock which kept the best time, even if that clock stood in the precincts of an Episcopal Church, But lueed not appeal to the dead, but to the living. 1 am glad to say that enlightened and liberal Parsees have subscribed to this memorial, Let us learn a on from the worshippers of that sun which sheds its beams on men of all races, colours, and creeds. The second objection is that the monument is too big for the man,—that Augustus Margary was after all a oung servant of the Queen doing his duty, and that this memorial would suit a veteran statesman who had achieved a great career, reply that Margary was certainly better known from what, he suffered than from what he did. But I say possibly more is known of him than is known about those obscure persons, St. Vedast and St. Margaret Pattene, for in" stance, who give names not to towers but to churches in London, The third objection is that the monument is exactly like the monuments I objected to—contried a double debt to pay—being a Cathedral spire and Margary Memorial. Now it was obvious that what I objected to was. a memorial which professing to do some great and elevated thing at the same time meanly subserved a utilitarian object, A Clock tower on the Bund does this, A Church tower, as we shall seo when I come to show what' memorial should do, is free from this objection. Just put it like this for clearness. I am not getting up a Cathedral tower and calling it a Margary Memorial, No! The very best form of a Margary Memorial which could be selected happens to complete the Cathedral. I come to the fourth objection, It is a great one I admit; it is the expense. The Margary tower will cost Tis, 8,500, It is a large sum, We must not blink that, But just look at it in this Li one hundred persons will give Tls. 25 this year, and Tis, 25 next year, we shall have Tis, 5,000. And we have nearly Tls. 2,000 already. "The times are passed when we could look to firms to put their names down for Ts. 5,000 each. That cannot be done, but Iam sure if we set our niders to the wheel we could carry out thisecheme, Atleast try. Ithink many old China hands now at home would subscribe, At least make the effort. I know there is

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