The Archive · 1925

In answer to Mr

Mei said he represented all the ac-A—Not at that tim cused.

Q—Just now you wid that six The Assessor said the minutes before you shot at the! wished it clearly understood crowd, you arrested the third it was not a Court of inquiry, man, Chu Ching Pah, either to commend or criticise the action taken by the Police. They Q—So that 6 minutes before you wore merely trying the defendants: shot at that time you had enough on the charges in the charge shote. power to control them.

Dr. Mei would be given every opportunity to bring out any evi-Q—Do you know that if Police dence regarding the charges.

Officers are going to arrest a roan, and if that man is without wea-Dr. Fischer said that in view of pons, then the Police Officer shouki the remarks made by the Court, not use weapons to attack him, he also wished to make a remark.

A—I do not understand your The Consular Body had sent a let question, ter, dated Juno 6, to the Commis.

Q—At the time you want to sioner for Foreign Affairs, and arrest a certain man, if this man this letter it, was stated "From the i if you do not above it will be observed that the im he will kill you, then i action of the Police has been very stich a case you can use weapons different from that described in to kill the man, your notes under reply. None A—I still cannot derstand.

mors deeply than the Q—Their resisting efforts were Settlement Authorities, the loss! not so. strong as yours because of life which has occurred, but the you were able to shoot them. question of the propriety of the A—You have got the wrong! whic steel be rand te course action taken by the Police is one sense of the answer. J said T ar= rested hint about 6 minutes before

prisoners isoners arrested ai this occasion the legal proceedings when the the shooting, That, man was try. ing to break away from the ait are brought for trial". body of the crowd to raise another Assessor:—Wil. you read the body to attack us from behind, sentence just after that?

That is the reason he was arrested.

Q—Before you shot on the crowd, did -you give them any warning?

Q—In what way did you warn them?

A—T pulled my pistol out and pointed it at different people in the front ranks of the crowd.

Q—Your pistol is short, and when you were pointing it at the crowd, only the people in the front: could see it, not those at the back, A—That is quite possible.

Q—Before you shot on them, did only about 10 seconds elapse before you warned them?

A—Yes, about that.

QuAt the time you used the pistol to point it at them, would it be possible for them to mise understand that if they did not you would strike them AWL do not think so. It is 8 very serious thing for a Police Officer to point a pistol at a crowd, and any crowd it is done to should understand perfectly well that he is on the point of firing at them, Q—When you were using the pistol to point it at them, did you say, "If your don't go away, 1 will shoot at' you", A—Yes, Twas shouting that them.

Q—Which 1 you use?

A—Both weve and "English, derstand Chinese?

A—Will you please tell me how, you expresiod that?

A—T took the pistol out and shouted,"Ding, yeh ding-ts-moh lat tang-sah" (Stop! If you do not. stop, 1 will shoot), GeAacconting 2 your present voice, the whole of the people in this room would not hear you, and you expecta the whole crowd to hear your A—I did not expect anyone to hear it—that is why I pulled my pistol to illustrate it, 'Q—Even when you showed your pistol, the whole Growd would' not notice it.

A—Impossible—2,000 men, Q—According to the Chinese way of doing things, if such a thing happened they would post notice and notify the public that if they did the same thing again, they would be shot, A~I would not have a Station to write that notice in, Mr. Muitiand:—The Court heard the evidence this) morning that there were 2,000 people shouting Kill the foreigner." Is it not a waste of time to ask if he went round to exch member of the crowd and told him he was going to shoot.

Questioned by the Magistrate:—After the shooting, did you see the corpse?

A—Yes. what distance wore they it of Louza Station.

Just 6 ft. away. The second one was a fits tle further on, maybe 2 ft. furs ther on.

Q—Were the corpses the front ranks of the crowd?

A—I cowld not say that. When the crowd broke and started to go

where he was standing, The other back only one of the men dropped men dropped as they were weaken ing in the crowd, Q—When the crowd of students he Station, was it intention to get the other students released?

A—The last time you moan, They came to the Station twive, Q—The last time, A—No. The last time their ition was to over-run the Potice.

Q—What proof have yon, or wow it your opinion, that they. wane teil to'take th a A—bBy the actions of the crowd andi their cries Q—After the warning was given cil the people in the front ranks want to stop oF continue to. rush 'A~They came right on until the stots were actually fired.

Q—After the warning that you were going to shoot, did the people, rush on or go back?

A—It did not have ihe slightest, effect, they rushed on.

Q—What kind of rifles were usodt 'A—The ordinary Police carbines with 5 bullets in the magazine' and

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